HP 3466A
4.5 digit DMM repair. An Oldie but goodie.
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Why fix a 43 year old DMM?
HP3466A is a nice instrument, worth putting some
effort into. I am retired and have some extra time, and I see that
there are very few Youtubes about repairing these. I suspect that
there are many of these in the wild, so maybe other owners would
benefit from my experience. Besides, I am obsessed; I get a nice dopamine response by
fixing stuff.
The HP 3466A is a 4.5 digit 20,000 count bench DMM. It has
true RMS AC and AC + DC voltage and current, and wide range 200uA
to 2A current range. I wish my HP3478A or 34401A had such low
current ranges. Features are:
- LED readout, 4.5 digits, 20000 counts
- AC and DC Voltage ranges: 20mV to 1200V,
~10uV noise on DC.
- Current ranges: 200uA to 2A, resolution
down to 10nA
- Ohm ranges: 20 ohms to 20Meg
- True AC RMS current and voltage
- Auto or Manual ranging
- Optional Metal
(rack mount) or Plastic (portable, with handle) case
- Optional battery for portable operation
- No interface: GPIB, serial....
This is a fine example of late 70's instrument technology.
Dual-slope ADC, DIP IC technology, lots of low-leakage teflon
insulators to reduce leakage currents. The core components are
three proprietary custom devices: a 40 pin DIP Digital
"Controller" IC which is an N-MOS ASIC, an "Input Hybrid"
containing the range and function switching JFETs and precision
resistors, and an "Integrator Hybrid" containing the FET switches
and precision resistors for the dual-slope ADC and auto-zero
circuitry. It is very serviceable and I
enjoyed fixing this one. Fortunately the three core devices
worked. They are no longer available (made of un-obtainium) so
your only hope would be to try to scavenge these parts from a
donor unit, hoping it doesn't have the same bad parts. Reworking
the Integrator hybrid will test your de-soldering and
board-cleaning skills to the limit.
Most of the other active parts are either
TO-99 (metal can) Op-amps, regulators and transistors, and DIP
jellybean parts, mostly 4000 CMOS. They mostly have HP part
numbers. It is usually (but not always) easy to find the merchant
part numbers. If the merchant PN is not in the BOM, Google is your
friend.
The Operator
and Service Manual is excellent. It thoroughly describes the
operation, circuit functions, and has full schematic, parts
placement and detailed BOM documents. The troubleshooting aids are
also excellent.
I recently was at a friends house, troubleshooting his garage door
opener, and asked if he had a meter. He blew the dust off this one
which had not been used in a decade or so. Needless to say the
battery was very dead and the unit did not function from AC
either. I offered to bring it home and try to repair it. After
looking up the specs and service info, I decided it would be
worthwhile to spend some time working on it.
First Problem: DIsplay stuck at "OL":
Overload
My first reaction was "Hey this thing is heavy."
I took the top cover off and discovered why. The cover held a
big-old Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) battery and its charging PCB. I
plugged it in and saw "OL" display on all ranges and modes. I
checked the unregulated power supply voltages, hoping for an easy
bad-capacitor fix. No such luck. I took it further apart, removing
the shield, saw the controller and 2 hybrids and hoped that the
problem wasn't there. I measured the regulated supplies and they
were fine: +/- 7V, and -2.5V. It is an interesting design
where most analog parts use +/- 7V, and the digital parts all use
+7V. I checked a bunch of the switch contacts, since corrosion on
these is a common problem. I randomly probed around, and found
that the dual-slope integrator output was pinned negative, which
explained the "OL". This doesn't tell you much because a dual
slope ADC is a closed loop circuit with many switched inputs. The
problem could be anywhere. I found that one JFET analog mux that
sets the input to the 2 lowest voltages ranges, had both JFETs ON.
One of them should be OFF. These were controlled by a D-type
flip-flop on the digital board. Q controlled one JFET and Q-bar
controlled the other. It was doing its job, but the level shifter
that converts the +7V logic to -7V levels, wasn't. I replaced the
defective LM339 quad comparator and that circuit now worked.
Still, the "OL" persisted.
I next looked at the ADC comparator, built with two CA3096
transistor arrays. Each array has 3 NPN and 2 PNP
transistors for a total of 10 transistors. They are configured as
two, fast, high gain amplifiers, and a simple diff-amp comparator.
I checked a few of the transistors in-circuit with a DMM on
the Diode range, and sure enough there were bad transistors in
both parts. B-E and B-C junctions should read 0.7V, possibly less
in-circuit due to other components in parallel. I measured 0.8 V,
1.4V, all over the map. I un-soldered them and replaced them with
IC sockets. This allowed me to plug in 6 2N3904 and 4 2N3906
transistors into the 2 sockets. And it worked! The LED display
came to life and measured DC voltages. I was elated and encouraged
that the 3 un-obtanium parts all worked fine. CA3096s are hard to
find in the USA so I ordered a couple from China.
Here are my two home-brew transistor arrays consisting of 2N3904
and 2N3906 transistors plugged into machine-contact IC sockets. 6
of the transistors plugged right in, the others required a bit of
lead-bending.
Next: Digit 4 goes dead
Unfortunately about 10 seconds after power ON,
the 4th digit went blank. I suspected the 7-segment LED itself,
but that wasn't it. Turns out that digit is controlled differently
than the rest, it has its own 7-segment decoder and drivers. The
decoder has a display blank input which is driven by a D-Flip-flop. I checked the inputs and outputs of
the '4013B flip flop and the inputs were fine, but the output was
bad. I replaced it and the digit came back to life.
I checked all the ranges using my DIY-SMU, and they not only
worked, but the instrument was pretty much still in calibration.
Wow!
Battery Upgrade to Lithium?
The battery pack is a 6V, 2.5 amp-hour, Gates SLA
battery made of three 2.1V cells. Date code is 1979! I could just
replace it or rebuild the battery pack, but could not find an
exact replacement. The cells are about $25 each, or $75 for 3. How
about replacing it with two 18650
Lithium cells: smaller, lighter, more
available (I have some), and much cheaper? I looked at the
complicated charging and dc-dc circuit and decided that increasing
the charge voltage from 7.4V to about 8.4V for two Lithium cells
could work. I'll use 18650 cells with built-in protect circuits to
keep them from being over or under-charged. The instrument draws about 250mA, so should operate
8-10 hours from a 2.5AH Li battery. It charges the battery at 300
to 500 mA, fine for Lithium.
Here is the original battery charge circuit. It's a bit complex
and took me a while to understand. During battery charging, it is
pretty standard: a constant-voltage circuit with power transistor
output and current-limit override. +7V into R806 is the reference
voltage. R806, R818(trimpot), R805, and R827 / CR806-810 form a
reference voltage divider. R804, CR811, and R807 form a feedback
voltage divider.
During charge, Q803 is OFF. Diodes CR806 to CR810 cause the input
voltage to increase to the charge voltage.
During battery
operation (discharge), Q803 is ON, and the circuit is similar.
R287 causes the input voltage to decrease to the discharge
threshold voltage and makes the circuit into a lower
voltage comparator. When the output drops below this lower
threshold, the sneaky 1Meg resistor R817, resets flip-flop U803A,
shutting down the DC-DC converter, which shuts down the
instrument.
I wrote an Excel
spreadsheet (below) to analyze the charge and discharge
voltages, and so I could figure out how to modify the circuit to
apply the correct voltages to a LiPo battery. Columns B
and C show the discharge and charge voltages for the original
Lead-Acid battery. I first calculate the current through the
reference divider circuit, then the voltage. Then do the same for
the feedback divider to derive the Battery Voltage. Diode voltages
are measured values for CR811 (0.45V) and CR806 - CR810 (2.2V).
Columns D and E show the Lithium cell voltages. I chose about
4.15V, less than the usual 4.2V, for the lithium cell
maximum, to protect the cells from cell voltage imbalance. If I
used a 2 cell circuit with proper cell balancing, The voltage
could be safely increased to 8.4V.
The final circuit changes required are:
- Change R806 from 102K to 68K
- Change R827 from 11.5K to 0 ohms
- Add one 1N4148 diode to the CR806-810
string
Initially I only changed R806 to change the
charge Voltage to 8.2-8.4V, but the discharge voltage was about
7.1V so the instrument would turn off prematurely. It should be
closer to 6.0V, 3.0V per cell. The difference between Lithium
charge (8.4V) and discharge (6.0V) is higher than the circuit
provides. This difference is caused by the difference in voltage
across the 5 diode chain vs. the drop across R827,11.5K. The
diodes can be thought of as the coarse voltage difference, and
the resistor provides the fine voltage difference. To increase
this difference, reduce R287, and increase the diode voltage. To increase the voltage of the 5 diode string which
is about 2.3V (0.46V per diode), either add a sixth diode (2.7V)
or replace it with a zener or shunt regulator. The current is
only about 25uA, so LM385-2.5 is a good candidate: its minimum
current is 20uA. I picked the
extra diode. Quick and easy rework, and it allows 2.7V
difference vs 2.5V for the LM385.
LM385 would also reduce the temperature
coefficient (tempco) of the charge voltage. 5 diodes have 5 *
-2mV/C = -10mV/C tempco. LM385 has about +/-50ppm * 2.5V = +/-
0.25mV/C. SLA batteries like the negative tempco.
Lithium's prefer a stable charge voltage. I'm pretty sure:-).
Here is the new Lithium batteries installed along with the 2
resistor mods. The battery holders are held down with foam tape. The
old SLA battery is also shown. I will add single pin connectors to
the new battery. I get > 2 hours operation from these old (and
unknown capacity) cells. New cells are on order.
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